19/10/10

10:45 am

Hi, Guys! How are we doing? 

I have been asked about the Vast Countenance and Lesser Countenance, because I ‘suggested’ ‘recommended’ that we/you combined your Cosmic Egg Exercise with Ophiel’s book, The Art & Practice of Contacting the Demiurge. Here it is from page 56, in the e-book version by Stephen Walford, in the file section of our group.

“There is one other basic idea that you can keep in mind and experiment with, and that idea is what I call merging. You will recall that I said in this book, and in my other writings, that the God forces-vibes were given names and identities as a handle so that our every-day-minds could get a ‘hold’ onto these abstract ideas, and thus USE the ideas as laid out in this book, and other writings. I suggest you practice-visualize these ‘handle’ IMAGES until you can recall the visualized picture quite well, and then MERGE yourself with the image, and feel yourself to be merged with the God Idea, and then go on from there as you are then on your own and I cannot advise you farther, but you should have some idea as to what to do and how.
As a somewhat advanced idea for you to work yourself into, in time, you can visualize the ‘handle-name-idea-picture’ of the Vast Countenance, visualize as a vast head/face (use your own ideas as to what it would look like if it were ‘real’, that is real on this physical plane) and carefully, gently, and quietly merge yourself with the Vast Countenance, and then ‘look down’ THROUGH THE LESSER COUNTENANCE TO YOUR PHYSICAL-MENTAL SELF. DOWN HERE, and then take it from there as to how you DESIRE TO SEE YOURSELF. A great amount of Knowledge-Power is embodied in the few words just given and I can find no way to make the previous admonition any stronger than so stated, even if I used ten thousand words. So be it.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.) 

Now, reading the above quote, it was ‘suggested’ that you, in your Cosmic Egg Exercise, see/visualise this vast head/face seeing you as, Egg = Akasha, Sphere = head, Inverted Pyramid = torso, Bowl = hips/pelvis and Cube = legs/feet! 

As the Vast Countenance, looks out, looks down, and stares, at you?? It/he sees you as an embodiment of the Five Basic Elemental Forces, which Forces is/are the Demiurge/Light??  And thus, you have a clairvoyant, psychic ‘connection’ ‘recognition’ ‘attachment’ to you!!

Traditionally, this Ancient of Days/Vast Countenance/Head is, seen in profile, as being ‘all right sided’ so it/he, is looking to/towards your right side! (From Kether to Chokmah as you, about turn and back into your Tree/Map, emotionally/imaginatively) The Reason!? For this ‘right facing’ is simple: if you look at your Tree/Map, the ‘right side’ of the Tree/Map is that of the Future = YOUR FUTURE!? (See/Read Ophiel’s book, The Art & Practice of Caballa Magic, pages 68 to 78, in the e-book version by Stephen Walford, in the file section of our group)

The Vast Countenance is always ‘Entering’ the Tree/Map from this/his/her/it’s Right Hand Side! So you can only ever ‘see?’ it/him, in profile!?! It/he-she doesn’t ‘enter in’ in any other ‘way??’ and enters in through Kether.

Here is what Ophiel writes in his lesson six, of his Correspondence Course in Astral Projection:

“I think that I had better mention here on my own experiences to give you some additional ideas as to what to expect to experience. When I first experimented along these lines, I noted a curious phenomenon, which may or may not become noticeable to you also. In the matter of the following directions to be given you are to start your "route" (I always started from the bed) in the Etheric body I mean, I found that after first starting the route operation work and watching the route pass along as I progressed, I found that, I, ANOTHER I, WAS ALSO OFF TO THE SIDE WATCHING THE WATCHING!!!!  I was never able to understand this double, dual, watching very much nor was I ever able to get any definite information about it I mention it here because if you notice it, I mean for you to study it as best you can, and give me some kind of report on it. When it happened to me I returned to the "first watcher" and ignored the double/dual-ness but later, upon its repetition, began to study it with surprising ideas developing. I arrived at the rather unexpected conclusion that another name for these phenomena of projection could be called, in a word, "Dual-ness," a sense of being double. This is your first introduction to this idea and may not be the last.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.)

With this ‘exercise’ you are practicing/using this, Duality/Idea/Principle, too/for your own advantage. When I read Dion Fortunes book, The Mystical Caballa, back in 1970, this was the first time that I was introduced to this, idea/concept of the, Ancient of Days, The Vast Countenance, (page 109 in my copy) The Vast Countenance is seen in profile, all right sided, as it/he-she ‘looks/stares’ and does nothing else!?! (A fixed point? = Eheieh = I-AM! = Elemental Principle, of the Elemental Force, of the Element of Earth?!? In/on the Highest Inner Plane) it is ‘after’ this STATEMENT/DECLARATION that the ‘fun?’ begins!!

I-AM-WHAT?!  I-AM-HERE!? (Where is Here!?) I-AM-NOW!? (There is ‘ONLY!?’ the PRESENT!!) Eheieh = I-AM! (The only, CONSTANT = CONSCIOUSNESS!?!) 

Anyway, to cut a long, long, long story short! I got an image of what I thought was an, Ancient Old Man/Image and I sat it/him at the top of my painted tree/map. This head/image was in ‘profile’ and was ‘all right sided!?’ I also ‘inclined’ ‘tilted’ the image slightly so that it looked ‘as if’ it was ‘looking down’ on the top of my tree/map! Which in this case was Kether the first: ‘circle/movement/emanation?’ So I would sit and look/meditate on this image/symbol over a long time not really knowing/understanding the ‘implications’ of it. When I ‘about turned’ and imagined/e-motioned myself on my tree/map, then this ‘image/head’ was ‘staring/looking down on me!’

It was only later that I found out that they were/are talking about ‘different’ levels/planes of ‘actions/doings’ and that one ‘action’ on one plane doesn’t necessarily work/operate in/on another plane. Ophiel writes about this phenomenon of ‘different’ actions/doings, being required for different planes, in his first book, The Art & Practice of Astral Projection in his chapter on the Dream Method, as one set of ‘movements’ doesn’t necessarily ‘carry over’ into/onto another/other planes. Understanding this simple statement of Ophiel’s is very, very important, if you wish to ‘succeed’ in/on the lower planes! Sex, Power & Money etc: (See/Read Ophiel’s book, The Art & Practice of Talismanic Magic, pages 74/75, in the e-book version by Stephen Walford, in the file section of our group) Here is what Ophiel writes on page 76 of this book:
“Much of the/your future life’s work you will have to work out for yourself, along your own personal and individual lines as, contrary to the advertised impression the contents of magical books give, they are only basic guides. No one can run your life for you but yourself. No one can make a Talisman for you but yourself. What I have said in this chapter is somewhat new, in that I have connected up several other lines of different thought to show that back of everything physical are a few great Basic Facts and that these facts can be used in many different ways to accomplish many different kinds of results. So, to repeat again and say it in another way, again for emphasis purposes, you OPEN yourself to the further flow of Prana through you (just knowing about it opens it up for a start, thinking about it does it too, more). And as your flow of Prana increases, so does your flow of Power. This is really all there is to it except as you learn to increase and intensify the flow as you grow. And this growth merges into control – the aim of all Occult practice.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.)

Anyhoo! Back to our monologue! One of the ‘ways’ to think/feel about the/this, Ancient of Days who does ‘nothing’ but just sits/stands there and does nothing but ‘stare’ is to look at it in the ‘modern sense’ the/this Ancient of Days is the only ‘Constant!?!’ everything else is moving!? (Even Elemental Earth, is a kind of ‘movement’) everything else is moving!? But he-she/it the ‘Ancient of Days’ the ‘Constant’ does not move??? (It is the Ancient of Days who is ‘dreaming’ us? Who is ‘dreaming’ the Demiurge? Et al; Chapter, Section eight and a half, page 50 of Contacting the Demiurge, e-book version by Stephen Walford in the file section of our group) 

So we have our ‘Constant = Eheieh = I-AM’ which is ‘personal’ to us as ‘individuals’ who are in fact, ‘partaking’ of the WHOLE and therefore, on an ‘individual/personal basis’ ALSO HAVE ‘ACCESS!?!’ TO THE WHOLE!!!?! (Get it??) Because at some level we are ‘one’ but knowing this, and ‘realising’ this, is/are worlds/universes/planes APART!? (different/distant) Also, it means/is ‘nothing to us now!’ living here? Where we have to pay taxes, go to work, take care of ourselves and our dependants and struggle on a daily bases!! (It is ‘we’ who ‘CARRY!?’ the weight of the ‘WORLD?’ on our ‘SHOULDERS!!’ [WE ARE, Atlas!! WE ARE, He who Dares!! WE ARE, He who Suffers!!] Who amongst us gives a shit!!! for the Ancient of Days, who just sits/stands does nothing but ‘stares constantly??’ and yet! And yet?! Does not ‘see us??’ ‘Know about us!?’ and unless we ‘tell’ it/him!! Will/shall ‘do’ nothing for us!!? (Just about sums up ‘God’ in the/our modern world) Here is how Ophiel describes it, in his book, The Art & Practice of Contacting the Demiurge, page 41, in the e-book version by Stephen Walford, in the file section of our group.

“In a sense it could be said that the Demiurge is a sort of “Idiot God”. Or again, as I can say, is like a programmed computer, with which I have compared it several times. (Note, study, the next material closely and absorb it.) The Demiurge does nothing you would expect a good God to do automatically: It does not reward good deeds or good works automatically. The Demiurge demands implicit and exact obedience, on your part, to all its rules. IF you can find out what exactly its rules are! At one time and place it gives a commandment “Thou shall not kill,” and in another place it says, “Go in and kill everyone, men, women, children, and babies”!!! This explains the curious fact that people HAVE to pray to the Demiurge (only they don’t know what they are praying to) to tell “IT” their needs and desires. These things you would think an omniscient God would know of in advance, - and yet, you can SEE that this is not true. Therefore, do not ever do “the right thing” and expect the Demiurge to reward you, - UNLESS YOU PROGRAM IT TO REWARD YOU, IN ADVANCE, AUTOMATICALLY.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.)

‘TWO’ OF THE SUPREME RULES!! OF THE DEMIURGE/LIGHT AT THE MALKUTH EARTH/ HADES LEVEL, IS/ARE THAT, OF ‘NEUTRALITY’ AND ‘IMPARTIALITY’ (Blind Hades, gives his ‘wealth’ to anyone who ‘asks properly!?!’ But Sisyphus and Tantalus ‘DO NOT!’ ask properly!) BUT! (Ah, YES! The great ‘BUT’ of Magic) But! We have to have ‘something’ in which we can ‘work against!?’ ‘work with!?’ ‘work towards!?’ and it is this ‘working’ (Elemental Earth Principle) that makes us ‘stronger?’ So, I put IT/SHE-HIM, The Ancient of Days, at the top of my tree/map and over a period of time, the idea grew on me. The ‘fixed point’ became a ‘place’ where I could ‘compare/contrast’ all the other ‘variables’ on the/a ‘first cause’ or as I prefer, THE SINGLE CAUSE, because everything in my life that is now, is merely an, ‘effect’ [Vibration?] (And this is ‘true’ in/on any plane!?) As the/a ‘first/single cause’ as an ‘idea’ became more familiar to me, I began to ‘relax’ a little and over time the ‘sense/idea’ of ‘distance’ (which is not ‘real’ as there is/can be, ‘no-distance’ ‘no-separation’ ‘no-other’ except through ignorance which creates/makes a ‘separation’  Clairvoyantly/Psychically ‘seen’ as a ‘psychological darkness’) became ‘visible’ to me as ‘different/difference’ (the ‘more’ different/difference, then the ‘more distance’ sense/feelings came up.)

The Outer, outer Physically Physical Plane is ‘different’ (reversed) from the Outer/Inner Malkuth Plane, which is ‘different’ (Earth= Solid/Inner) from the Etheric Plane, (Water = Flowing/Ebbing) which is ‘different’ from the Astral Plane, (Fire = Expanding/Entering) which is ‘different’ from the Mental Plane, (Air = Moving/Converging) which is ‘different’ from the Causal Plane (Akasha = Constant/Continuous)  etc, etc. This ‘difference’ is/has been, shown/revealed over time, as a DISTANCE/SEPARATION, (Planes) which does not really, actually, factually, literally ‘EXIST’ EVERYTHING IS ‘NOW!!?’ (Eheieh = I-AM!) 

So! Where’s my car Dude!! So! Where’s my Big House!! So! Where’s my Fat Wad Bank Account!! So! Where’s my Perfect Partner!! So! Where’s my **!!””** Whatever Dude!?! THEY ALL SEEMED? SO DISTANT, SO FAR AWAY, SO OUT OF REACH? SO OVER THERE! YET EVERYTHING IS ‘NOW!?!’ So! The next thing I noticed, was that on page 188 of my Dion Fortune book, The Mystical Caballa, there is a/an, Lesser Countenance??? A wee version of the BIG VERSION!? Or, if you like, A REFLECTION or, if you like, A MIRROR IMAGE!?! Or, if you like, A ‘REVERSED MIRROR IMAGE?’ So! The Big Kahuna STARES at the Little Kahuna! AT A LITTLE/MIRROR IMAGE OF ITS/HER-HIM SELF, OR WHAT IT/HE-SHE THINKS!? IS ITS/HIM-HER SELF??? (Eheieh = I-AM =THIS?!?)

WELL!! I CAN DO THAT!!? WELL!! YOU CAN DO THAT!!? ISN’T THAT/THIS JUST CALLED/NAMED ‘CREATIVE VISUALISATION????’ ISN’T THAT WHAT ALL THIS ‘STARING!?’ ‘LOOKING’ ‘NOT MOVING’ (Observing) IS ALL ABOUT!! Is this not what we ‘do’ in Ophiel’s four methods of ‘Projecting?’ (Do you/can you, ‘see/feel’ the ‘connection!!?’) Do we not ‘increase’ ‘enlarge’ ‘engage’ our powers of ‘observation!?’ and then, ‘transfer???’ our consciousness to the/that level!?! Did you ‘know?’ that if you ‘stare’ ‘observe’ something/anything for long enough, YOU BECOME IT??? (You ‘enter’ into it? Just as the Vast Countenance ‘enters’ into ‘ITS’ Eheieh – I-AM) 

Needless to say that the/this, ‘speed of becoming/being’ is ‘different’ or more ‘difficult’ for some/many than it is for others! You could say, in a manner of speaking, this is where the, ‘distance?’ comes in? Stand where you know you will not be disturbed for the length of time you are going to practice, half-close your eyes, if you cannot half-close them, then close them all the way.
Turn inwards and see/feel first of all, your Outer, outer physically physical body, then see/feel your Egg/Oval/Aura all about you and ‘you’ in the centre, then feel your Sphere about your head, then your Inverted Pyramid around your torso, next, your Bowl surrounding your hips/pelvis/crotch and then your Cube about your thighs/legs/feet.
 
Go now all ‘about’ your Symbols/Forms and ‘feel’ their shape/form about you, within you, and surrounding you!  Make them any colour that suits you or is appropriate to what you are ‘feeling’ in the exercise. Now! STAND OFF TO THE SIDE AND ‘LOOK/STARE’ AT YOUR COSMIC EGG SYMBOLS! Make it an, 90 degree angle off to the/your right side and look at your Egg with its Four Basic Elemental Symbols within it! THIS IS INNER YOU!! THIS IS HOW/IN WHAT ‘WAY’ THAT THE VAST FACE ‘SEES YOU!?’ (‘See’s’ itself!?) I-AM THE COSMIC EGG!? So! If you can ‘see/feel’ yourself in this same self way, then you will/shall have a ‘flow’ using your own outer, outer physically physical body as the Elemental Principle, of the Elemental Force, of the Element of Earth! Here is one of the ways that Ophiel describes this ‘peripheral sight’ of the emotions/imaginations; it is from his same book, The Art & Practice of Contacting the Demiurge, on the next page 42:

“MORE SIDE NOTES: Have you ever noticed in life how occasionally a subtly expressed DESIRE will unexpectedly come true? Without a lot of praying and weeping and wailing?: I suggest that in some subtle way a channel to the Demiurge happened to be open and the prayer/desire/thought got through instantly and (let us use that new word “programmed”) programmed the Demiurge to work, and create, or bring the already created to you. FURTHER NOTE ABOUT THE DEMIURGE: You must furnish a pattern for the Demiurge to follow, to build on, and to arrange the physical plan on. To arrange to bring about the kind of result you want. Your ability to visualize is one of your powers to create-furnish such patterns as you will. ANOTHER NOTE: You should know, and allow for the fact, that it is not easy, even for the Demiurge, to arrange events for single individuals as per their exact desires, and quick time as it were. It is necessary for YOU to cooperate with the Demiurge, in every material way you can, to furnish “paths” through which the Demiurge can “work”. (Remember, “IT” is The Worker-The World Builder.) Remember that ALL that you want is here now, but your want must be “steered” in your direction, and through channels and paths, and contacts, on this Plane. And if the paths and channels are not here now, and you do not furnish some build-up along that line, then the Demiurge must start from nothing, and that is a job, even for a God! So do your part. This is where the material as given in the book “The Art and Practice of Getting Material Things through Creative Visualization” written before I knew about the Demiurge; but much of the basic material is the same as the start.)” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.)

Hades is ‘Blind’ in/on his own plane? YET IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY, YOU WILL/SHALL ‘SEE’ THAT IN/ON THE PLANE OF FIRE = EMOTIONS/IMAGINATION YOU ‘CAN!!!’ STARE DIRECTLY??? AT YOUR OBJECT, CIRCUMSTANCE, THING, IT! AND YOU CAN ‘DO IT’ IN THE ‘MANNER/METHOD’ OR ‘WAY’ OF THE/A GORGON STARE? WHICH WILL/SHALL ‘TURN’ YOUR EMOTION/IMAGINATION INTO ‘STONE = ELEMENTAL EARTH PRINCIPLE!!?’ = WHICH WILL/SHALL CREATE/MAKE A ‘SYMBOL/FORM!?’ (See/Read earlier files, 2010)
  
So, as you can ‘see/read’ ONE SET OF RULES/LAWS/GOVERNANCES IN/ON ONE PLANE, DOES NOT, WILL NOT, NECESSARILY WORK/OPERATE/FUNCTION IN/ON ANOTHER PLANE, WHERE THE RULES/LAWS/GOVERNANCES IS/ARE ‘DIFFERENT??’ NOT ‘DIFFICULT??’ JUST DIFFERENT!!
BUT THE ‘PRINCIPLE’ OF ANY/ALL THE ELEMENTAL FORCES IS/ARE ‘CONSTANT??’ IN/ON ‘ALL’ THE PLANES!?! WHICH WE ‘USE’ AT ALL AT ONCE, AS OPHIEL WRITES! 

Do you not ‘realise’ that the Rules/Laws/Governances of Malkuth Earth are ‘Different’ from the Rules/Laws/Governances of the Outer, outer Physically Physical Earth? Did/does not Ophiel tell you this in his very first book, The Art & Practice of Astral Projection? (Little System) and in his second book, Creative Visualisation, Reversal of the Planes! 

Standing ‘between’ Physically Physical You and Etheric You, IS MALKUTH EARTH YOU? In Ophiel’s third book he (Ophiel) explains that only the, PRINCIPLES, OF EACH ELEMENTAL FORCE ARE ‘WORKING/OPERATING’ IN/ON EACH OF THE ‘DIFFERENT’ PLANES, ACCORDING TO THE ‘RULES/LAWS/GOVERNANCES’ OF THE/THAT PLANE! (Yes? No?) [Go look at your Tree/Map if you don’t believe me!!] For example, the ‘Elemental Principle’ of the, Element Force of Water, is CONTRACTION! = This is its FORCE! (Force = Movement/Expression!!?)  This ‘Principle’ holds good in/on any of the other Planes!! And it is the same ‘idea’ for the other three ‘Principles’ of the Basic Elemental Forces! Air, Fire or Earth that ‘contracts’ is/are, USING, the Basic Principle, of the Elemental Force, of the Element of Water, in order to do so!!! (Get it??) SO! IF I ‘DO NOT MOVE!?’ (Principle, of the Elemental Force, of the Element, of Earth) IN/ON THE ELEMENTAL PLANE OF MALKUTH EARTH/HADES, I AM THEREFORE WORKING, OPERATING, WITH/WITHIN, THE RULES, LAWS AND GOVERNANCES, OF THIS PLANE! I AM IN ‘HARMONY’ WITH THIS PLANE = EARTH of EARTH!! THEREFORE I HAVE ‘INCREASED’ MY CHANCES OF ‘SUCCESS!!’ THROUGH MY ‘UNDERSTANDING’ ‘PRACTICING’ AND ‘DOING’ WHICH INCREASES MY ‘EXPERIENCE’ OF THE ELEMENTAL ‘FORCE’ OF THE ‘ELEMENT’ OF THE ‘EARTH PRINCIPLE!?’ AND IT IS THIS ‘KNOWLEDGE’ (Gnosis) OF THIS EARTH PRINCIPLE THAT I ‘TAKE/TRANSFER’ WITH ME (CONSCIOUSNESS = ELEMENTAL EARTH) AS I ‘ENTER?’ THE ‘OTHER’ PLANES!!!

Here is what Ophiel writes in his vignette; The Power of Speaking Things and Conditions Into Existence, in the e-book version by Stephen Walford in the file section of our group, Ophiel Vignette Lessons in Occult Power.

“To repeat: WHEN YOU, BY YOUR INNATE POWERS, CREATE THE THING/CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU 'WANT' FOR YOUR HAPPINESS. YOU ALSO CREATE THE OPPOSITE AT THE SAME TIME!!!!! (For God's sake and your sake, study this until you understand it.) In the examples, achieving the desired result was accomplished by 'BINDING THE 'ACTION' NOT WANTED?' All the old magical operations had this 'BINDING ACTION' in them but the actual instructions for 'BINDING' were left out of books and never written down before as such. This knowledge was really 'SECRET' and passed on only by word of mouth.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s) 

This ‘binding action’ you are ‘learning’ by/with the daily practice of your Cosmic Egg Exercise, BY/WITH YOU ‘NOT-MOVING’ YOU ARE NOW BECOME!!??!? THE BINDING PRINCIPLE!! YOU ARE YOUR ‘OWN EARTH!!?’ Then Ophiel writes, in the next paragraph: “NOW THAT YOU KNOW OF THIS OPERATION AND IF YOU TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, YOU CAN BECOME A SUCCESS IN EVERYTHING YOU DO. 
The question that you should be asking now is: "If the above is true how is it that there are any successful people at all in the world? Can it be that the 'LAW' of 'OPPOSITES' does not operate for some and only operates for some others to their advantage? There are people in the world who seem to get good results with everything they do. Why doesn't it work equally for all people?' End quote. (Capitols and Italics are ‘O’s.)

The answer to the above is, YES! THE LAW OF OPPOSITES DOES!!! OPERATE FOR SOME??? AND NOT FOR OTHERS??! TO THE DISADVANTAGE OF THE/THESE OTHERS!!! AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS, THE SUCCESSFUL PERSON DOES-NOT-MOVE!!? THE UN-SUCCESSFUL PERSON ‘PUSHES’ (Sisyphus) ‘GRABS’ ‘REACHES’ (Tantalus) ‘ BOTH MOVE??’ Then Ophiel writes in the next paragraph:

“All right, have you ever seen or had contact with a very successful person? I mean someone who is truly a successful person - a successful gambler, a successful businessman, a successful physician or even a successful crook? If you have, you must have noticed that: THE SUCCESSFUL PERSON, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER LETS HIS ATTENTION GET AWAY FROM THE ONE SIDE AND THE ONE SIDE ONLY, OF WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO, HE NEVER CONSIDERS FAILURE AT ALL. HE THINKS ONLY OF SUCCESS, SUCCESS, SUCCESS - THE SUCCESSFUL SIDE OF WHAT HE WANTS AND NEVER THE OTHER SIDE. It is up to ‘YOU’ to decide WHICH SIDE YOU ARE GOING TO WORK FOR AND LOOK FOR.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s) 

Do you? Cannot You? UNDERSTAND??? THE ELEMENTAL PRINCIPLE, OF THE ELEMENTAL FORCE, OF THE ELEMENT OF EARTH, IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT!? Here it is again: 

“NEVER, NEVER, NEVER LETS HIS ATTENTION GET AWAY FROM THE ONE SIDE AND THE ONE SIDE ONLY, OF WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO, HE NEVER CONSIDERS FAILURE” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.) 

This ‘one side’ ‘and the one side only’ is the ‘IMMOBILITY’ ‘INERTNESS’ ‘SOLIDITY’ ‘HARDNESS’ ‘IMPLACABLENESS’ ‘COLDNESS’ OF THE SYMBOL OF/FOR THE ELEMENTAL ‘PRINCIPLE’, OF THE ELEMENTAL FORCE, OF THE ELEMENTAL PLANE OF ELEMENTAL EARTH = HADES = YOU!!!! IN/AND ‘ON!!!’ THE ELEMENTAL PLANE OF MALKUTH EARTH!!!

Then Ophiel writes: “I recall now many things that puzzled me in the past, for many years my family was in the medium class hotel business where we dealt with many people who were not very successful in life/living. When I would speak to these people about things in life that were better than what they had, there reaction was one of carping criticism and disparaging remarks of a negative nature about almost every subject that was brought up. Nothing is ever any good to these people. On the other hand when you speak to successful people, notice how they never talk other than optimistically about all subjects and that their 'ACTIONS' follow their words. This then is the binding principle that holds down the side you do not want.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.) 

IN THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH THERE IS/ARE ‘TWO KINDS’ OF PERSONS THAT OPHIEL IS WRITING ABOUT! ONE IS THE KIND THAT ‘MOVES’ (Sisyphus/Tantalus = Pessimist) IN/ON THE ELEMENTAL PLANE, OF THE ELEMENT OF EARTH AND THE OTHER, IS THE ‘KIND’ (Hades/Persephone = Optimist) THAT DOES-NOT-MOVE!
(HADES/PERSEPHONE always ‘expects’ the best to ‘COME TO/TOWARDS THEM!!??) Finally Ophiel ends his vignette with this; 

“Now, I do realise that it is very hard to think only of the one side when all your life you and the rest of 'YOUR WORLD?' have done the other. Maybe all of your family and relatives do this other and it is this that is holding you down in your efforts to improve yourself. All you can do is to make up your mind not to discuss anything of a vital nature or of vital interest to you, with them and seek your company among the successful.

Many times in order to have what you really want in life, it is necessary to get away from the old surroundings and seek a new set up for living. Endless stories have been told about people who left their home surroundings to seek their fortune in wider fields and 'FOUND IT!' You can be the success you want, if you 'ONLY WORK FOR THAT SUCCESS' and eliminate from your life all the circumstances that tend to bring failure. GOOD LUCK, LOTS OF SUCCESS AND HAPPINESS!” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.) 

You do not have to ‘leave home’ right away! Practice your Cosmic Egg Exercise according to Ophiel’s book, The Art & Practice of the Occult and in his Correspondence Course in the Foundation of the Occult Knowledge and take it from there. 

YOU CAN THEN/NOW ‘APPLY’ ANY ELEMENTAL PRINCIPLE, OF ANY ELEMENTAL FORCE, IN/ON ANY OF THE OTHER ELEMENTAL PLANES (YES? NO?) BUT LET US RETURN TO THE ONE WE ARE WORKING ON NOW! MALKUTH EARTH + PHYSICAL EARTH: AND THE ‘PRINCIPLE’ OF THE/THAT MALKUTH EARTH PLANE IS ‘IMMOBILITY!!’ ‘INERT!!’ YOU-DO-NOT-MOVE!!? Here? In on this Outer, Outer Physically Physical Plane we ‘EX-PRESS’ this ‘Immobility - Constant?’ through the ‘FIXATION?’ of Treasure Maps/Charts, Talismans, Rituals, Prayers, HABITS & ATTITUDES, etc, etc. (Repetition is the/an, Elemental Earth Principle ‘WORKING/OPERATING’ in/on the Plane of Water??) (See/Read earlier files 2010, see/read earlier posts/messages.) See/Read Ophiel’s first lesson in Ophiel’s Correspondence Course in Astral Projection, here is how Ophiel puts it, in this lesson:

“There is another matter in regard to the idea of training or exercising that I want to bring out at this time also. For the sake of understanding this matter a little clearer you can consider that the Etheric Plane and Etheric Matter has become a little "thick." There is something very funny about, (I mean in the sense strange and not amusing), the consideration of the Etheric Matter in that repeated movements, or the repetition of exercises, does seem to ware out some kind of path in this Etheric Matter, and each repetition makes it easier and easier to follow. Although this is getting a little but away from Astral Projection, still you can understand by this how it is possible that we do learn things on the Physical Plane, it is through the agency of the Etheric Plane. This is part of what I said before about controlling the plane lower by mastering the plane above. You are going to learn by means of a number of guided exercises, and you will also learn by doing.” End quote.

Peripheral Sight is looking/seeing ‘off to the side?’ (At a 90 degree angle) an, ‘acute angle’ but not everyone is able to ‘see/feel’ this fact but its ‘implication’ is there! In the ‘ONE’ that is ALL RIGHT SIDED?! IN RELATION TO WHERE YOU ARE NOW! THIS ‘ONE WHO IS ALL RIGHT SIDED’ IS ALSO YOUR OBJECT, CIRCUMSTANCE, THING, IT! (Oh! But yes it is!!? Try it yourself!!!) 

Stand where you know you will/shall not be disturbed for the length of time you wish to practice. Half close your eyes, if you cannot, then close them all the way. Turn inwards and feel your physically physical body first, then, when you are read, see/feel your, Egg/Aura/Oval about you. When you are ready see/feel your, Sphere about your head, and then your Inverted Pyramid about your torso then your Bowl about your hips/pelvis/crotch and then your Cube about your, thighs/legs/feet. 

AS YOU ‘WATCH’ ‘OBSERVE’ THE/THESE FIVE BASIC ELEMENTAL FORCES AS ‘SYMBOLS’ SURROUND YOU, PENETRATE YOU AND FILL YOU. ‘STAND OFF’ TO YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE AS YOU ‘WATCH’ ‘OBSERVE’ THIS!! 
 
1.	There is Outer, outer Physically Physical You. 
2.	There is Inner/Outer Malkuth Earth You.
3.	There is Inner/Inner Etheric You.

Here is what Ophiel writes in his first book, The Art & Practice of Astral Projection, page 21 in the e-book version b Stephen Walford, in the file section of our group. 

“A start has to be made somewhere to learn about the other bodies you possess and to learn how to use them. To learn how to transfer your consciousness, from the physical body to these other bodies at will, is just about the best and most pleasant rewarding type of growth that you could find to advance along the path leading to Illumination. These powers can come only with use and not by talking about them.
For example to be more specific – can you sit or lie down and bring up images of persons or things into your mind mirror? Can you see, perhaps dimly, these figures and shapes? Can you then use your will-imagination to move them about and place them in different positions and make them do different things? Everyone can do this to some extent. Do you know what these images really are? These images are Etheric-Astral matter images and you are seeing them with the third eye. The single eye mentioned in the bible. As I said we all have this power, in some degree, and it only remains to give it careful attention to develop it and thus double your abilities and talents to be able to handle life’s tough problems. Do you want to have less?” End quote.

And on page 25, we read this: 

“When you have done this operation for a long time and you are thoroughly familiar with it, you then add the following work – Start at the first place of your route, your bed or your chair – Image yourself rising out of bed, or your chair, and starting your route. At first YOU WILL SEEM TO BE LOOKING AT YOURSELF DOING THE ACTION. When you have done this for a while and you are familiar with yourself doing the actions AND FULLY REALIZE THAT IT IS YOU WHO ARE DOING THE ACTIONS IN DUAL – THEN MAKE THE ATTEMPT TO TRANSFER YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU, YOURSELF, TO THE IMAGE OF YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE WATCHING – Try to see thru the eyes of the image, feel it about you, feel yourself into it. 
The image is your etheric body and you are watching it thru the ‘eyes’ of the ASTRAL BODY – when you WORK on or SEE any part of yourself you are working or seeing thru the body ‘above’ that body. So in this case you are transferring down and not up. Hold your consciousness into the Etheric body and go thru the route to the end and back keeping yourself in the image. See thru the eyes of the image and perform all the actions with the etheric counterparts of the physical body, the etheric arms and legs etc. 
Keep doing this until you are perfect at it. ONE DAY THE TWO BODIES WILL FUSE INTO ONE BODY AND YOU WILL OPEN ANOTHER KIND OF AN EYE AND YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU ARE REALLY THERE IN THE ETHERIC BODY FOR REAL AT THE SAME TIME YOU WILL BE CONSCIOUS OF THE PHYSICAL BODY TOO AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE DUAL AND CAN AND DO FUNCTION IN BOTH BODIES AT ONCE.” End quote. (Capitols are ‘O’s.)

By/with this constantly/repeatedly ‘turning inwards’ you are in a, very ‘real sense’ INVOKING the Principle Power of the Elemental Force, of the Element of Earth within you! But! Because your ‘intention’ has not been ‘defined’ (Shaped/Formed = Water/Etheric) beforehand, any benefit you may have gotten from your practice/doing is lessened or haphazard?  So! Consciousness ‘IS!’ Malkuth Earth and it is the ‘Principle’ of Malkuth Earth ‘Inertia’ that you take with you, back up/in/onto, the Etheric Plane. Your Objects, Circumstances, Things and It’s, is are at ‘right angles’ to you, on the ‘periphery’ of your inner sight. Once you have learned to Etheric Project, you then take the ‘Principle’ of Malkuth Earth = Inertia and the ‘Principle’ of Etheric Water = Contraction, up/in/onto the Astral Plane = Expansion = Emotions/Imagination, When you have mastered the ‘Principle’ of ‘Expansion’ you then project to the plane of Air = Movement, when you have mastered this ‘Principle’ you are then the ‘Hermes Trismegistus’ in the Emerald Tablet, Consciousness = Earth, having the: THREE PARTS OF THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE WHOLE WORLD!! 

The ‘whole world’ is Physical Earth & Malkuth Earth Principle, the THREE PARTS, is/are, Water = Contraction Principle, Fire = Expansion Principle & Air = Movement Principle. 

When your, Consciousness goes/travels up the Tree/Map, THEN ALL THE OTHER SPHERES CHANGE POSITION ABOUT YOU! (Your Tree/Map ‘changes shape!?’) IN RELATION TO YOUR RELATIVE CONSCIOUSNESS! YOUR, I-AM PRINCIPLE!?! 

Side note: Take Malkuth Earth/Consciousness and put/place it between Yesod and Tiphareth with Netzach and Hod to the side, and see what ‘ideas’ rise into Consciousness from this exercise. Take Malkuth Earth/Consciousness and put/place it between Tiphareth and Kether with Geburah and Chesed below and Binah and Chokmah above and see what ‘ideas’ rise into Consciousness from this exercise. Take Malkuth Earth/Consciousness and put it in the ‘centre’ of a circle of Yesod, Hod, Geburah, Binah, Tiphareth, Chokmah, Chesed, Netzach and see what ‘ideas’ rise into Consciousness.

Because you ‘DO-NOT-MOVE?’ all of the/these OTHER SPHERES, must/have/has to ‘MOVE-ABOUT-AROUND-YOU = MALKUTH EARTH/CONSCIOUSNESS YOU!! THAT-DOES-NOT-MOVE!!? The more times you ‘do/practice’ being/becoming ‘STILL’ the ‘more’ you will/shall ‘reflect back?’ See/Read Ophiel’s book, The Art & Practice of Clairvoyance, e-book version in the file section of our group: Read Ophiel’s chapter on, A MAGIC MIRROR AND CLAIRVOYANCE and his other chapter, THE TWO MINDS. 

The/this, Two Minds is/are Outer, outer Physically Physical You and Outer/Inner Malkuth Earth You! If the Malkuth Earth You ‘Moves?’ THEN YOU HAVE NOT YET MASTERED THE ‘BASIC PRINCIPLE’ OF THE, ELEMENTAL FORCE, OF THE ELEMENT/PLANE OF, ELEMENTAL EARTH!! IF THERE IS TO BE, ANY KIND/TYPE OF ‘MOVEMENT’ IN/ON THE ELEMENTAL PLANE OF EARTH, THEN IT MUST BE ‘A MOVEMENT TO/TOWARDS YOU!!’ YOU-DO-NOT-MOVE!! IN/ON THIS PLANE!! ALL THINGS ‘GRAVITATE’ TO/TOWARDS YOU! 
(Gravity is the Elemental Earth Principle ‘WORKING/OPERATING’ in/on the Plane of Water!! This ‘Gravity’ is INCREASED/ENHANCED BY/THROUGH/WITH, ‘REPETITIONS!!?’ WHICH IS ONE OF THE LAWS/RULES/GOVERNANCES OF THE PLANE OF ETHERIC WATER = CONTRACTIONS!!!! GRAVITY = CONTRACTION!! IS ‘ETHERIC!?’) 

Read Ophiel’s third book, The Art & Practice of the Occult and his Correspondence Course in the Foundations of Occult Knowledge: if you can, try practicing your Cosmic Egg Exercise with the information from these two sources. Try if you can, to take the ‘PRINCIPLE’ of Elemental Earth = Inertia, up/in on/into the Etheric Plane of Water and ‘APPLY’ THIS ELEMENTAL EARTH PRINCIPLE TO THE ‘SHAPES/FORMS’ THAT YOU ARE ‘ATTRACTED/ATTACHED TO!?’ THAT ARE ‘DOMINATING YOU!!??’ BY MAKING YOU!?!? ‘MOVE!!?’ TO/TOWARDS THEM!! SEE IF YOU CAN, REVERSE THIS ‘ACTION’ (See/Read Ophiel’s vignette, How To Control/Dominate Others.) I, me, (sender) HAVE LONG KNOWN, WHEN I AM/WAS ‘DOMINATED’ WITH THE ‘I WANT’ ‘I WISH’ ‘I HOPE’ ‘I DREAM’ ‘I WOULD LOVE’ AND NOTHING CAME OF IT!! AS I CONSTANTLY REACHED?! GROPED!? GRABBED!?! FOR MY ‘IT’ TO NO AVAIL!! (Tantalus) SO THEN, ‘I PUSHED’ ‘I SHOVED’ ‘I HEAVED’ (Sisyphus) FOR MY ‘IT’ TO NO AVAIL!! 

YOU CANNOT, YOU WILL NOT, YOU SHALL NOT!! EVADE, ESCAPE, AVOID, THE ELEMENTAL PLANE, OF THE ELEMENTAL FORCE, OF THE ELEMENT OF EARTH! BECAUSE ‘ALL THIS’ (Our, O/C/T/It’s from ‘ALL’ the other plane above over) IS/ARE ‘GIVEN UNTO ME!!!(Malkuth Earth/Consciousness) AND TO WHOMSOEVER ‘I’(?) CHOSE TO GIVE IT!?! 

People can be ‘passionate’ and unsuccessful!
People can be ‘determined’ and unsuccessful!
People can be ‘gifted’ and unsuccessful!
People can be ‘creative’ and unsuccessful! 

And then there is are; PEOPLE WHO ARE ‘SUCCESSFUL’ IN SPITE OF THEMSELVES AND THE WORLD!!? (Outer, Outer Physically Physical World that is) THESE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO ‘CONSCIOUSLY/UN-CONSCIOUSLY’ OR ‘KNOWINGLY/UN-KNOWINGLY’ DO-NOT-MOVE!! Whether you Astral/Etheric project or not, THE MOMENT/SECOND YOU ‘FEEL’ ATTRACTED/ATTACHED TO SOMETHING/ANYTHING, YOU HAVE ‘MOVED’ FROM THE ‘MALKUTH EARTH PLANE’ TO THE ‘ETHERIC WATER PLANE’ AND YOU ‘ARE!!??!!’ NOW THE SMALLER/WEAKER POLE!!?! If, you are lucky/fortunate to ‘see/feel’ your Object, Circumstance, Thing, It, OFF TO THE SIDE, (Etherically) AS ON THE PERIPHERY OF YOUR VIEW, (Thus, you ‘do-not-have-not-moved) THEN ‘IT’ MUST COME TO/TOWARDS YOU! (Ophiel’s subtly expressed desire.) 

I, me (sender), can tell you now, from personal experience, it is ‘not easy’ to ‘stand still!?’ for ‘single items’ as it were, but unless/until your ‘ATTENTION’ is FOCUSED on this, Opposite/Automatic Reflex/Action of ‘moving’ (Tantalus/Sisyphus) on the Elemental Plane of the Element of Earth, then things/life will shall/have a ‘pendulum’ swing about it. TO ‘STARE!?!’ AT SOMETHING/ANYTHING FULL ON!?! IN/ON THE PLANE OF MALKUTH EARTH IS ‘INCORRECT!?’ AND WILL/SHALL ‘HOLD YOU UP/BACK’ 
(It is in/on the Plane of Fire/Astral/Emotional/Imaginative, that you can ‘USE’ your ‘GORGON STARE!?’ Why else?? Do you think that the worthy Ancients put it on Athena’s Breast Plate?? See/Read earlier posts/messages, files, etc.) 

THE RULER!? OF HADES/MALKUTH EARTH IS ‘BLIND?’ MALKUTH EARTH/HADES IS A ‘DARK PLACE?’ ‘GLOOMY PLACE’ ‘MURKY PLACE’ (All these references are to a/the psychological darkness, not a/an factual, actual, literal physical darkness!!) YOU-DO-NOT-MOVE-IN-A/ANY-DARK-PLACE!? TO ‘STARE FULL ON’ AT AN, OBJECT, CIRCUMSTANCE, THING, IT, IN/ON THE MALKUTH EARTH/HADES IS A ‘FORM/TYPE’ OF ‘MOVEMENT???’ (A ‘type/kind’ of, REACHING, GRABBING, GROPING, PUSHING)  IN/ON THE ELEMENTAL PLANE OF THE ELEMENT OF EARTH!?! YOUR ‘IT’ O/C/T MUST ‘COME TO/TOWARDS YOU!!?!’ YOU DO NOT! I REPEAT YOU DO NOT! MOVE TO/TOWARDS ‘IT’ YOU DO NOT! I REPEAT YOU DO NOT! STARE AT ‘IT!’ 

INSTEAD, YOU/WE/US??! ARE ‘INSTRUCTED/INFORMED!?’ THAT WE MUST ‘FEEL’ THAT WE ‘HAVE/POSSESS’ OUR O/C/T/IT ALREADY! THAT WE ARE ‘USING’ IT!? (BY/WITH USING ‘IT’ THIS IMPLIES THAT WE ARE/HAVE ‘ALREADY!?!’ BECOME ‘IT!!!?’) THIS TECHNIQUE IS CALLED/NAMED ‘INDUCTION’ (Induce = late 14th century = To Lead by/with Persuasion or other Influences = Treasure Maps/Charts, Chants, Prayers, Emotions/Imaginations, Talismans, Rituals etc.)   

To the modern person with their 24/7 internet connection and Light at the flick of a switch, they have no-understanding of what the, DARKNESS MEANT/MEANS TO A/AN ANCIENT PERSON!? ‘DEATH’ IS A ‘DARKNESS’ TO THE UN-INITIATED AND THEREFORE IS TO BE FEARED/SHUNNED!? UNTIL YOU EVENTUALLY??! SEE?? THE LIGHT!! (See/Read Ophiel’s books, The Art & Practice of Astral Projection and The Art & Practice of Clairvoyance, both e-book versions by Stephen Walford made available for you, in the file section of our group.) Now! To finish off!!?!

Look at your Tree/Map for a minute or two, then, when you are ‘ready’ in your Emotion/Imagination, ABOUT FACE AND BACK INTO THE TREE/MAP: Feel above/over your head, Kether, at your right temple, Binah and at your left temple Chokmah: Next, feel at your right shoulder, Geburah and at your left shoulder Chesed, then at your solar plexus, Tiphareth: Next, feel at the top of your right hip, Hod and at the top of your left hip Netzach, then at your crotch, Yesod: next feel at your feet, Malkuth. (All of this is ‘INSIDE’ the/your Cosmic Egg.) WHEN YOU HAVE GOT/DONE THIS, THEN MENTALLY/EMOTIONALLY, LOOK OFF TO THE SIDE!! FIRST TO THE RIGHT SIDE = EMOTION/IMAGINATION AS PROJECTIONS AND THEN TO THE LEFT SIDE = AS MEMORIES OF = FORMS OF ATTRACTIONS/REPULSIONS, AND THEN RETURN TO THE/YOUR MIDDLE PILLAR = CONSCIOUSNESS/NOW TIME!? 

FOLLOWING THE ABOVE EXERCISE/RULES, YOU NOW ‘KNOW!?’ FIRST HAND FROM EXPERIENCE!!!? THAT EVERYTHING IS ‘OFF TO ONE SIDE!!!?’ ALL YOU (You = Consciousness) HAVE TO DECIDE, IS WHICH ‘SIDE!?!’ YOU ARE ‘LOOKING FROM?’ WHICH ‘SIDE’ YOU ARE ‘OFF TO!?’ AND ‘STARING/LOOKING AT’ YOUR PRESENT TIME/MIDDLE PILLAR YOU/CONSCIOUSNESS/NOW!!!? (Yes? No?) 

Try, practice this exercise for about 30 days at two minutes per session several times a day ‘LOOK FROM!?’ one ‘side’ then the other ‘side’ TO/TOWARDS Your Middle Pillar = Consciousness You! And then you will/shall understand much! (Many things should ‘rise naturally’ [Softly] within you, clairvoyantly/psychically and enhance your natural abilities.)
 
Wishing you all well and every success, as ever, 

sender  

P.S. The Chair exercise if understood/felt properly should help/assist in getting a ‘feel/grip’ for the ‘reverse-ness idea’ of this kind of thing. (See/Read file section in group, files 2010)

P.P.S. The/Your ‘World’ about you now, is a ‘Construct’ of your Brain, within which, is everything ‘else’. In the question of ‘What The/Your Outside World Is??’ IT IS A THREE DIMENSIONAL ‘HOLOGRAPHIC PROJECTION’ OF THE BRAIN TO ‘STIMULUS’ FROM ‘QUANTUM LIGHT LEVELS’ THAT ARE ‘PROJECTED?’ ONTO THE/YOUR ‘COSMIC EGG’ (Why? DON’T KNOW?? SO DON’T ASK!!!) 

In order to ‘MAKE/CREATE’ a ‘Holographic Image’ YOU ‘SPLIT’ A ‘BEAM OF LIGHT’ (Single Source Light) AT A ‘RIGHT ANGLE’ (Causing/Creating/Making A Duality of the One, NOW TWO?!) AND THEN ‘RE-CONSTRUCT?’ THE ‘IMAGE’ THAT THE/THIS DUAL LIGHT (Emotion = Astral Plane) ‘PASSES THROUGH’ (Etheric Symbol) IN THREE DIMENSIONS, (Malkuth Earth/North Quarter, etc, etc.) 

If you would like to ‘see’ the outer, outer physically physical ‘equivalent?’ of what is ‘happening?’ inside your ‘head’ then check out how ‘Holograms’ are Made/Created in the outer, outer physically physical world and keep in mind that we are ‘talking about light particles [Transmundane God] as Waves of Light [Lesser Countenance, Demiurge, Astral Light, Akasha, etc, et.’ 

And for goodness sake, and common sense sake, remember/recall, that the above hologram explanation, is only an ‘example’ for your inner mind/personality to grasp/think about!!!! The ancient Psychics/Clairvoyants intuitively knew/felt this kind of thing/process was going on inside/outside them, Duality, Plato and his Cave, Malkuth Earth, etc,  and tried to ‘explain it’ in the Religious/Philosophical ‘context’ of the day/system that they were brought up in.

Today we have Psychology, Psychiatry and Science but no ‘application’ of them to/for the inner truths of these things for the benefit of the ‘masses’ who are STILL!! ‘Controlled’ ‘manipulated’ ‘abused?’ by the ‘few’ with/through, Media, Sound, Consumerism, BUT!!!! STILL ATTACHED/ATTRACTED TO THE OLD DEVILS OF RELIGION, POLITICS, RACISM AND ‘PROJECTED FEAR’ IN ALL THESE ‘AREAS’  

You will/shall find that the oldest known symbol for mankind is the equal armed cross (+) symbol, which represents the/this ‘Right Angle’ Off To The Side business, etc. And historically it meant/represented/symbolised the/a ‘Change of Season!?’ i.e. Spring, Summer, Autumn/Fall and Winter. For ‘us’ it meant/means a ‘Change of the Basic Elemental Forces!!’ in us? Hence, ‘right/left angle’ (Right Hand/Side or Left Hand/Side of God, etc.) or as I like it, (me, sender) Off To One Side?